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I'm giving up

Postby January » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:35 am

No, this is not a cleverly titled post about "how giving up can improve you life".

I read Conversations with God just now and there God says to Neale something like people give more meaning to words than experiences. This kinda made sense to me.

I'm giving up.

I've tried it all. I've used sedona method a lot for the past few years. I has done nothing. I haven't noticed any improvements in my life. So my experience tells me that the shit doesn't work. Sure, I've read many testimonials that the sedona method has changed lives and all that shit. But I don't give any value to those words anymore. I value my own experience now. And thos experiences say that the method is BS. It doesn't work and never did. It hasn't improved anything.

I've tried The Work and it didn't do anything either. Yeah I've seen the videos where grown up men broke to tears but it hasn't done anything to me. My experience tells me that it doesn't work.

EFT doesn't work either. I've used it a lot and it doesn't work.

The Secret doesn't work. Yeah yeah, when I tell myself that it doesn't work then it doesn't. Sure, ok. I've done a lot of those "exercises" or whatever in the secret and really really believed... tried it in small things and tried it in bigger things. Nothing has happened what so ever. Yeah, again many people tell that their lives have changed and that they've got millions of dollars with the secret and cured their blindness and whatever. That's cute, but my experience tells me that it doesn't work. Again, I believe my experience more than something someone says me. I tried it, I believed it, didn't work.

Then again in CwG, God says that people aren't willing to listen. Well, I'm willing. I'm willing to listen and receive anything he has to say. Words, feelings, experiences... give me everything. The whole package. Let's see what happens.

Maybe this is just some ego rant but I really don't care anymore. I'm giving up. I wanted thing to go certain way in my life and I believed that they might. I don't anymore.

If you have some ideas that I might be able to try, let's hear them. I'm just pretty tired with all these tricks.
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Re: I'm giving up

Postby CaterpillarWoman » Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:28 am

Actually, giving up isn't a bad plan. Sometimes, it's only when we surrender our control and our ideas about how to do things and so forth that we see any change. I say give it all up. Release it. Surrender. Then just relax for a while and see what unfolds.

I will tell you that I speak from experience with this. And I'll tell you that I've been where you are (may be there again, too). If you feel like letting go and giving up, do it.
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Re: I'm giving up

Postby Herbert Weiler » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:52 pm

Hello i am herbert and new to this forum all the methods you have used i have read about them
and i think also there dont work for every one but i think al of them have some kind off thruth
what helped me is just that some times i feel good and sometimes i dont and that is pretty normal
and i believe that there are states that make me feel good and i try to return to them as often as i can
sometimes we can have states of stillness an total awareness sometimes not
question sometimes are you happy or can you remember some happy moments in the past if you have there must be something positive
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Re: I'm giving up

Postby Cassie » Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:35 pm

I agree with CaterpillarWoman, give up and see what happens. Just be happy. Spirituality doesn't get much simpler than that.
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Re: I'm giving up

Postby scarface » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:27 pm

January wrote:If you have some ideas that I might be able to try, let's hear them. I'm just pretty tired with all these tricks.

An idea that you might be able to try. Is trying to not first go to look outside for (external) answers, ideas, solutions etc..
To just do what you feel like doing. Just say what you feel like saying. Just thinking or believing in a way you feel like thinking or believing. Etc.. That's my idea. And if after time you feel like trying or using those things like eft, tat, tots, tits and I don't no what more stuff is out there, you can do it because you feel like doing it and not because you were told/convinced to do it.

The way I life by is just that. I just do/say/"believe" the way I feel like doing/saying/believing. And after that just see what happens. What for response my actions or words will produce I can't predict anyways ime, and therfore I feel like the only thing I can drive by is what my own feeling pushes me towards doing/saying/etc..

Good to see you given yourself the space/freedom to give up, and trun your back on things you don't feel like doing anymore.
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I couldn't find one. Just an ego thinking it possesed the above qualities, yet in all my experiences I saw it didn't have any of those qualities. Nor any other quality.
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Re: I'm giving up

Postby Carly » Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:57 am

Giving up was the best thing I ever did! I was so frustrated with my quest for enlightenment that I really decided to give up because I felt I had done everything and I didn't know what to do anymore. I remember equating it to the idea that there was a pipe leaking water and my house was getting flooded, and my only two options were holding the break in the pipe, which made no difference whatsoever but at least made me feel that I was doing something, or just walking away and letting it flood, that it was better to just let it flood because the outcome would be the same but at least I wouldn't waste energy in vain. I really thought I was giving up and allowing myself to live a life of misery, but I was miserable anyway and I had no idea how not to be so why bother anymore? At first I felt it was resignation, but at least I did feel a release. Slowly, over a period of about a week, I realized that it was all about acceptance and non-resistance, and my heart opened completely and I was in perfect peace and love.
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Re: I'm giving up

Postby Carly » Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:02 am

Oh, BTW, I had been using the Release Technique, which was created by a student of Lester Levinson, just like the Sedona Method, and although it REALLY helped at first, eventually I found myself trying to force myself to release everything so I could become Self-realized. Then in meditation one day I was feeling fear and I was upset about that so I tried to release it. I got the message "Make friends with your fear." Meaning that I didn't have to indulge it, but just notice it was there and let it be. Not try to overcome it, and also not even claim it as 'my' fear, but just as fear floating around and realize if it is there then it should be because everything is in perfect divine order. I just had to learn to let everything be as it is and not try to change or resist the present moment. Even if I am not enlightened right now I can still be perfectly happy with THIS.
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Re: I'm giving up

Postby Lee » Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:43 am

Shut the f up Janurary. Get a job. :p
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Re: I'm giving up

Postby January » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:23 am

I've got a job!
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