SpiritFire wrote:I just need help because I (for the first time in all my life) am genuienly happy with life. I love what I do and I love the people I work with. And i'm not so attached to all that that I can't move on if I need to. I really don't think I would be unhappy anywhere I went. My happiness is on the inside, not defined by any outside input.
SpiritFire wrote:I work with a lady who is highly negative. At least I think she is. It could be my health or the amount of work I do.
I mean that her energy gets to me a lot.
SpiritFire wrote:I think you hit the nail on the head as far as the draining aspect of it. I really feel tired after being with her and there are times where I just feel I need to be by myself and regroup.
Awesome that you notice and know the difference between the (honest) appriciation and the (often incincerity) of flattery.SpiritFire wrote:I tell her I appreciate her and her abilities a lot. But it comes out of honesty and not ego flattery.
SpiritFire wrote:Since awakening, I can't quite tell if ego flattery has any place in showing enlightenment thru example. To me, it seems it would just entrench ego more. It's like giving into a 2 year olds tantrum, imo.
SpiritFire wrote:I'm not at the point where being present is my natural state (although, really, it is my natural state I just forget).
SpiritFire wrote:But I will work more with compassion and see where that goes.
What does being present mean, to you? I don't entirely get the term used.
Do you mean just being, without any thoughts, emtions or feelings distorting the presense energy in the body? (to add my (unsolisited opinion about that, ime can't be done unless you are sitting alone in a room withput any external distractions, but when external things appear an reaction in naturally to appear in the form of an thought, feeling or emtion imo.)
Though If you want to show people enlightenment, through showing that you will not let ego play any part (as you expressed). I think the assesment that both have to go then, is a true one.
To add my own unasked view about it. Enlightenment and ego to me means that you see that the ego is merely a mind created "thing" that in reality doesn't exist neither in an objective nor subjective way, and therefore also has no authority, free will, real existance, yet it is felt and there "existing" in an non-objective and non-subjective sense. Knowing that, playing around with something like this (ego), you would see it can do no harm nor good (for yourself).
scarface wrote: the ego is merely a mind created "thing"
SpiritFire wrote: If ego is in fact non-existent, how do we as humans create so much hell on earth.
This is one of those paradoxes, huh?
But if the ego is not real, where then does the "realness" lie?
And how do we come to see the illusion for what it truly is?
This questions implies some things. I don’t know how to answer it, nor what the precise problem is. My experience is that the creation of much hell on earth, is not a problem. How it is created? We all can see the examples in our lives and on the news. My preference would be that there would be less pain and especially less (mental) unhappiness, but that is just my preference. No pain and mental unhappiness on this earth I would consider to be highly undesirable. Since I would consider my life with only pleasurable experiences ,no pain and no mental unhappiness; to be a dull life and probably leading to an total undervaluing and appreciation of the pleasurable experiences.SpiritFire wrote: If ego is in fact non-existent, how do we as humans create so much hell on earth.
Yes, for the brain it’s a paradox. Meaning the brain can’t get it. Why not imo? The brain is that which created the problem, and now coming at a point where it ends up at itself.SpiritFire wrote: This is one of those paradoxes, huh?
The ego is not real in the sense that my opinion is that is has no substance and no attributes, how can you say something exists that has no substance nor attributes? Yet we all feel it being there. Imo, it’s realness lies in the illusions that are created by the brain. Like to use the metaphor: “where does the realness of the daydream lie?”, when my brain creates it, it somehow exists for me. But can I say is exists?SpiritFire wrote: But if the ego is not real, where then does the "realness" lie?
Imo, “How” questions can only be answered by the brain. And this is something where that which needs to answer it, is that which is the problem and created the illusion. Imo, it’s beyond the brain, and I think it therefore should be treated like this. Therefore imo there is no how, nothing that can be done to see it. The only thing I would advice, is do use the brain in trying to create an as healthy as possible brain, mind and ego. Which can be done imo through: relativization, looking within, being understanding and compassionate towards oneself and others, looking beyond the swift judgements of the mind, trying to be self and outward honesty, etc.. I think such a brain that is programmed like this statistically higher probable to receive the intuitive understanding to see the illusion, yet it can happen to anyone also the ones with an psychopathic brain imo.SpiritFire wrote: And how do we come to see the illusion for what it truly is?
SpiritFire wrote:Thank you, scarface.
I will think on it and see what conclusions I draw.
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