Every forum has an awkward one

[headshaker]

In my time net surfing, I've been on all sorts of forums from rock/metal to anesthesia fetish (?!) to this one. I've noticed that without exception there's always an awkward one, the arrogant one, a rude person, a villain, a space hog. This forum has one and WE ALL KNOW WHO IT IS! But my comment is not to obliquely swipe at that person (oh ok it is but just a little), but rather to express interest in the phenomenon. Why should it be?

Maybe they serve a genuine purpose in the scheme of the dream, like every movie needs a bad guy, it's like grist for the mill, a challenge to be dealt with. The awkward ones make you think and sometimes they have genuine pearls of wisdom. If your worldview/perspective does not take them into account, does not work when they are present, then it is probably flawed.

Awkward people inevitably provoke a reaction, and are thereby an excellent test of exactly where you are. That doesn't mean I like them or want them, but the ability to deal with them is perhaps an essential growth point.

[Lee]

In my time net surfing, I've been on all sorts of forums from rock/metal to anesthesia fetish (?!) to this one. I've noticed that without exception there's always an awkward one, the arrogant one, a rude person, a villain, a space hog. This forum has one and WE ALL KNOW WHO IT IS!

You leave Ariel alone!

This forum has one and WE ALL KNOW WHO IT IS!

I don't. Who is it? If you're brave enough to post this- you need to be brave enough to say who it is.

I hope it's me!

For this person is obviously making an impact!

[scarface]

This forum has one and WE ALL KNOW WHO IT IS!

I hope it's me!

Are you trying to claim my title, Lee?
If you want it, you will have to earn it.
Let the games begin. I challange you by performing an awkward dance: . Good luck at beating that mister!

[Lee]

And suddenly scarface is my hero.

(You lovely awkward dancer you!)

But this forum is only big enough for one villain.
And you are too kind for that.

We're just waiting for the name.

Even though "we all know who it is."

So why wait on a dog whose all bark and no bite?
We all know it is Lee. The meanest, rudest, most arrogant space hog of them all.
The awkward one. The villain.

And to think that Lee has been holding back!

This is a great thread for one reason-and that is you Scarface.

You have totally impressed me! I mean standing out of the box- Bravo!!!

[headshaker]

oh ok then, I think Max Power is the forum's awkward guy. I refuse to believe I'm the only one who thinks so. The guy could use a little more tolerance to people who aren't as enlightened as he thinks he is. That said, he has his pearls of wisdom but as another contributor pointed out be nice to yourSelf and your Self will be nice to you. I have issues with the rude and condescending. The day I don't I will be enlightened indeed!

[Lee]

Kudos to Headshaker for backing himself up. It took courage to post the post and courage to name the name. I respect that!

My experience has been that when there is one that rubs me the wrong way, if we both hang in there long enough, we end up liking each other. Or I have no problem with someone but they might post something that I don’t like or agree with. Sometimes others don’t like me, but I have no problem with them.

The main thing is- all we know about anyone on a forum is their posts- and maybe avatars and pictures. That is very little. So the most we can honestly say about other posters is that we don’t like their posts, or style etc. How each of us lives our lives off line- who we are as people, in families, our history, the kind thing he or she did whom we don’t like on the forum for instance. All of this goes unnoticed.

Fairly often a sense of compassion- even love- arises in me for those on the forum. My personality does not care for this but it happens anyway! Going deeper than the words of a person- touching that one- the being within them. And this can happen for those I think I don’t like much too.

I agree that Max is a handful! But the very thing that makes him this, also makes him vibrant and alive and well, interesting. Whenever I see a post from Max- I feel sunshine and am eager to see what he says. Many times there are dark clouds and it is pouring down rain afterwards- but I’ve learned to carry an umbrella!

But I am a rebel and radical myself, so I like that in others. I like those who push the boundaries of society. And you do that too Headshaker, this subject testifies to it. I like that you are rock and roll- I relate to this. But the thing is, for the people I am drawn to there is always a price. The very thing that makes us go “Wow”- can make us go “Damn!”

Also Max has a very high consciousness- easy to feel, even if his words are inaccurate or even rude. But that consciousness is more of an appeal than his uncouth “behaviour” at times.

Why am I writing all of this???

All I really want to say is that I’m glad it’s not me.

[scarface]

And you are too kind for that.

We all know it is Lee.
And to think that Lee has been holding back!

Oké you win. Since you beat me, I hope you make it to the final and win that as well. Then I can at least say I lost of the champion.
I must agree I'm "too" kind, and can't help it. When I was younger I tried being a cool badboy for social value purposes, but I could never pull it off. The kind and compassionate qualities are just stronger in me. Like I just spend 1/2 off my free day, taking care of and nurturing a cute foreign girl, that just arove at my city to come to study here. I just met her that day by random, and decided to to take care of her. To my suprise there was no intention with me to do this for it leading to sex, that was really a big suprise for an horny (uuhh I mean sexual) being like me. There really is nothing more fun for me then taking care of someone that I feel like taking care of (aka feels like a "worthy" or "approciative" person towards my helping), and expecting nothing in return.

Anyways. Unsolicited advive time:

The guy could use a little more tolerance to people who aren't as enlightened as he thinks he is.
but as another contributor pointed out be nice to yourSelf and your Self will be nice to you.
I have issues with the rude and condescending.

Offcourse, it has happened to me in my life often that I had an emotional reaction to what someone said, and it possibly leading getting irritated/mad/etc.. For myself, it only got no personal problem, and escalated internally anymore when I saw: 1. the process, and 2. that it must say something about myself (better said perception/wished perception of myself) and to just look what that might be.
The proces I think is: 1. Emotional reaction to what is read (no problem so far) and the 2. Getting involved with that reaction, and then doing all kinds of stuff with it mentally.
What aspect in you is Max trigerring, when he is being rude/intollerant/condescending? Did your partent/realtives/loved ones treat you this way when you were younger, and haven't you been able to forgive them for doing that? Did or would you like to also sometimes be rude/intollerant/condescending to certain pepole, but does your inabitions prevent you from doing that or is that an (small) aspect that is also within you that you haven't been able to accept being there? Do you try to not express rude/intollerant/condescending things because it doesn't fit in with the personailty you have created for yourself and what you are, and therfore supress that aspect and are not able to accept it? etc..

This is just an example of how I would treat such a thing internally, would it happen that certain charachter traits in someone else would lead to personal/mental escalation in myself (which for me means, beyond just the first initial emotional (natural) response). And I felt like sharing how I treat such things, when it does accur for me.

My pennies for today, Scarface.

[Max Power]

Nisargadatta Maharaj once said.............

"I do not care for you, I'm not here to be your friend or foe, I'm here to wake you up, that is my only purpose, that is why you have created me"

Max

[Lee]

Are you comparing yourself to Nisargadatta?

Nisargadatta Maharaj was a Great Guru- who became realized by following what his Guru told him to do.

Have you read the book I Am That?

It is a thick book. Nisargadatta says many things.

"I do not care for you, I'm not here to be your friend or foe, I'm here to wake you up, that is my only purpose, that is why you have created me"

I read something similar to this in one of your posts and not in quotes. Is this where you got it from?

After listening to Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, a man said to him, “So, the sage is only a dream also?” Sri Nisargadatta replied: "Yes, but the sage is a dream that can wake you up."

The question is, are you are Sage?

If you are Self realized like Nisargadata, then "I do not care for you, I'm not here to be your friend or foe, I'm here to wake you up, that is my only purpose, that is why you have created me." Is the Truth.

But if you are not. Then this is false.

[Max Power]

Are you comparing yourself to Nisargadatta?

There is no comparison....we are the same thing, one. The seperation is created by the desire to know yourself. Truly you can't know what you are, until you know what you're not.

If you are Self realized like Nisargadata

As long as the human being remains, then it's a fleeting state and I consider it's egoic to claim to be self realized and/or free of ego.

You can be at peace and in a state of awareness and observation, but not all the time....that would defaet the purpose, imo

Max