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		<title>By: Ariel Bravy</title>
		<link>http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/spirituality-is-not-about-being-a-good-person/comment-page-1/#comment-1956</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariel Bravy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 07:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chandan,

Sounds like your life has helped lead you perfectly to the point where you are now. It&#039;s all played a role.

As helpful as they have all been thus far in getting you here, what would happen if you let go of all the exercises and all the effort to get anywhere other than where you are now?

What&#039;s here when you stop seeking? What&#039;s here when you allow everything that&#039;s here to be here, including stuckness or non-stuckness, meditation or non-meditation, pranayama or no pranayama?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chandan,</p>
<p>Sounds like your life has helped lead you perfectly to the point where you are now. It&#8217;s all played a role.</p>
<p>As helpful as they have all been thus far in getting you here, what would happen if you let go of all the exercises and all the effort to get anywhere other than where you are now?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s here when you stop seeking? What&#8217;s here when you allow everything that&#8217;s here to be here, including stuckness or non-stuckness, meditation or non-meditation, pranayama or no pranayama?</p>
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		<title>By: Lissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 07:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marco- Whoah! Well that makes sense now..that sure was was confusing huh?!?!?! 

All is well then. :)

I think alot of us have a love of the computer. ;)

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Lissas last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://raw-foods-rawk.blogspot.com/2009/03/well-its-been-awhile-since-ive-blogged.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Well it&#039;s been awhile....&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marco- Whoah! Well that makes sense now..that sure was was confusing huh?!?!?! </p>
<p>All is well then. <img src='http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/wp-includes/images/smilies/smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think alot of us have a love of the computer. <img src='http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/wp-includes/images/smilies/wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><abbr><em>Lissas last blog post..<a href="http://raw-foods-rawk.blogspot.com/2009/03/well-its-been-awhile-since-ive-blogged.html">Well it&#8217;s been awhile&#8230;.</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Chandan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chandan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 07:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have been tuned to lead a life which is need based, i.e. struggle for existence to a certain extent. In the process, i have been doing &amp; am tackling matters, financially and otherwise, in the manner my father did; which was trying to keep all controls within the self. Today i have started to understand that all these were fear borne, but finding it hard to bring it to the realm of realization and dissolve it. i feel i am stuck up. i am practicing exercises, pranayams, early stages of meditations, reading your articles and other teachings.
i am inclined to come out of these blocks and lead a pure life spiritually in the realm of Oneness. 
Would you help me ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have been tuned to lead a life which is need based, i.e. struggle for existence to a certain extent. In the process, i have been doing &amp; am tackling matters, financially and otherwise, in the manner my father did; which was trying to keep all controls within the self. Today i have started to understand that all these were fear borne, but finding it hard to bring it to the realm of realization and dissolve it. i feel i am stuck up. i am practicing exercises, pranayams, early stages of meditations, reading your articles and other teachings.<br />
i am inclined to come out of these blocks and lead a pure life spiritually in the realm of Oneness.<br />
Would you help me ?</p>
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		<title>By: Marko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 06:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lissa, I was not talking about myself, just pointing out that there are different forms of addiction and some are psychological like feeling your addicted to pot when it&#039;s more psychological is different than heroine which to me is more chemical and can have painful with drawls etc.  It&#039;s all mental and emotionally connected.

There all always exceptions to these things and different treatments.  I&#039;m no expert on this matter and have never been addicted to anything in my life that I know of. Though I&#039;m sure I have some soft addictions like spending to much time on the computer!

I try not to take much of this too seriously or take life too seriously. 

I try to be lite and light-hearted about life. 

There are exceptions though, I take emergencies,  illness, emotional and physical pain seriously.  The reason we sometimes have them is because sometimes, (not always) we are over serious about ourselves and life and that&#039;s what causes pain.

Somethings are worth being serious over to some degree, much of it not.  But that&#039;s just my opinion at nearly 2:00am in the morning:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lissa, I was not talking about myself, just pointing out that there are different forms of addiction and some are psychological like feeling your addicted to pot when it&#8217;s more psychological is different than heroine which to me is more chemical and can have painful with drawls etc.  It&#8217;s all mental and emotionally connected.</p>
<p>There all always exceptions to these things and different treatments.  I&#8217;m no expert on this matter and have never been addicted to anything in my life that I know of. Though I&#8217;m sure I have some soft addictions like spending to much time on the computer!</p>
<p>I try not to take much of this too seriously or take life too seriously. </p>
<p>I try to be lite and light-hearted about life. </p>
<p>There are exceptions though, I take emergencies,  illness, emotional and physical pain seriously.  The reason we sometimes have them is because sometimes, (not always) we are over serious about ourselves and life and that&#8217;s what causes pain.</p>
<p>Somethings are worth being serious over to some degree, much of it not.  But that&#8217;s just my opinion at nearly 2:00am in the morning:-)</p>
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		<title>By: Lissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 05:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marco-

I would say that there would be some truth to what you are saying but I&#039;m not clear on what your situation is. 

If chemical addiction is your only challenge then just stay away for a week or so and then you will be away from it. When I go from cooked foods to all raw foods there is a period of time where leftover artificial chemicals tempt me....

but if chemicals is your only challenge then I would say you have it made because that is easy to overcome.

Water, water...and more water really helps with any form of cleansing process. 

The deeper issue in all this is there does tend to be an emotional component to it...

that one could maybe using food or alcohol as a way to avoid stuff that is coming up presently. 

I have other concepts and ideas but it&#039;s alot of info to put on a blog comment...such as their may be some nutritional deficiencies that can cause a person to stay hooked on something...like I&#039;ve heard that alcoholics are B vitamin deficient. If you are ever interested in that type of info I&#039;d be glad to share it with you.

We all just have to keep our heady head up. 

About that oneness thing...Rome wasn&#039;t built in a day....and we have been living this illusion of separation for some time now....so a transition like that takes time....for all of us! :)

For me, loving me helps me to love others, plus it helps them to love them....when we are all loved and well cared for we naturally work together better as a team. 

Peace and have an amazing weekend Marco!!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Lissas last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://raw-foods-rawk.blogspot.com/2009/03/well-its-been-awhile-since-ive-blogged.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Well it&#039;s been awhile....&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marco-</p>
<p>I would say that there would be some truth to what you are saying but I&#8217;m not clear on what your situation is. </p>
<p>If chemical addiction is your only challenge then just stay away for a week or so and then you will be away from it. When I go from cooked foods to all raw foods there is a period of time where leftover artificial chemicals tempt me&#8230;.</p>
<p>but if chemicals is your only challenge then I would say you have it made because that is easy to overcome.</p>
<p>Water, water&#8230;and more water really helps with any form of cleansing process. </p>
<p>The deeper issue in all this is there does tend to be an emotional component to it&#8230;</p>
<p>that one could maybe using food or alcohol as a way to avoid stuff that is coming up presently. </p>
<p>I have other concepts and ideas but it&#8217;s alot of info to put on a blog comment&#8230;such as their may be some nutritional deficiencies that can cause a person to stay hooked on something&#8230;like I&#8217;ve heard that alcoholics are B vitamin deficient. If you are ever interested in that type of info I&#8217;d be glad to share it with you.</p>
<p>We all just have to keep our heady head up. </p>
<p>About that oneness thing&#8230;Rome wasn&#8217;t built in a day&#8230;.and we have been living this illusion of separation for some time now&#8230;.so a transition like that takes time&#8230;.for all of us! <img src='http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/wp-includes/images/smilies/smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>For me, loving me helps me to love others, plus it helps them to love them&#8230;.when we are all loved and well cared for we naturally work together better as a team. </p>
<p>Peace and have an amazing weekend Marco!!</p>
<p><abbr><em>Lissas last blog post..<a href="http://raw-foods-rawk.blogspot.com/2009/03/well-its-been-awhile-since-ive-blogged.html">Well it&#8217;s been awhile&#8230;.</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Ismaelia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ismaelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay,
I completely agree with julie and might add to simply look at the dark aspects of yourself as they arise.There is no need to understand them or explain them or tell yourself any thing about them. There is no need to change them, only to look at them in non-judgment and as much acceptance as you can at this point in time. If you can not fully accept some aspect of yourself right now then accept that you are unable to accept that aspect right now. It&#039;s ok. All is meant to be. All has a purpose as Julie said.  That is ALL you need to do. 
Ego may want to make more of the process. Emotions may arise. Anything that arises is meant to and is necessary to your growth.Just keep looking at whatever arises. All is well! As Ariel says, underneath it all is nothing but love.
Well, that is how I see it now and what currently works for me. It may or may not be helpful to you. At any rate, awareness desires to express this to you through me. So be it.
lots of love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay,<br />
I completely agree with julie and might add to simply look at the dark aspects of yourself as they arise.There is no need to understand them or explain them or tell yourself any thing about them. There is no need to change them, only to look at them in non-judgment and as much acceptance as you can at this point in time. If you can not fully accept some aspect of yourself right now then accept that you are unable to accept that aspect right now. It&#8217;s ok. All is meant to be. All has a purpose as Julie said.  That is ALL you need to do.<br />
Ego may want to make more of the process. Emotions may arise. Anything that arises is meant to and is necessary to your growth.Just keep looking at whatever arises. All is well! As Ariel says, underneath it all is nothing but love.<br />
Well, that is how I see it now and what currently works for me. It may or may not be helpful to you. At any rate, awareness desires to express this to you through me. So be it.<br />
lots of love.</p>
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		<title>By: Marko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh it&#039;s not so heady my friend.  We know in truth that we are all one.  That is our theory that we are basing this on at this moment.  However, we are not always able to demonstrate our theory that we are all one.  We are working and playing toward that end it would seem.

 

So in truth we are not separate but one.  Our human experience can and may say otherwise.

 

Silence is great, but the world we live in is more than silence, but by silence we often mean, quiet brain activity and that&#039;s a nice place to be for sure.

 

Sometimes this stuff gets a little much, I get that too.  :rolleyes 

So we can light heartedly go about being and doing what gives us the most joy at this 
given moment. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh it&#8217;s not so heady my friend.  We know in truth that we are all one.  That is our theory that we are basing this on at this moment.  However, we are not always able to demonstrate our theory that we are all one.  We are working and playing toward that end it would seem.</p>
<p>So in truth we are not separate but one.  Our human experience can and may say otherwise.</p>
<p>Silence is great, but the world we live in is more than silence, but by silence we often mean, quiet brain activity and that&#8217;s a nice place to be for sure.</p>
<p>Sometimes this stuff gets a little much, I get that too.  <img src='http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/wp-includes/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif' alt=':rolleyes' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So we can light heartedly go about being and doing what gives us the most joy at this<br />
given moment. <img src='http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/wp-includes/images/smilies/wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ariel Bravy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ariel Bravy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, this is getting a little too heady for me Marko.. starting to hurt my brain.

&quot;We appear separate, even when we theoretically are not.&quot;

Theoretically? What?

At this point, silence is the only thing that actually makes any real sense to me...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, this is getting a little too heady for me Marko.. starting to hurt my brain.</p>
<p>&#8220;We appear separate, even when we theoretically are not.&#8221;</p>
<p>Theoretically? What?</p>
<p>At this point, silence is the only thing that actually makes any real sense to me&#8230;</p>
<p>hmmm</p>
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		<title>By: Marko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lissa, you said &quot;I think the whole idea of an addiction is an misnomer…its only an addiction if you label it such.&quot;

 

To me there is a difference between addiction and preference.  We become uneasy, uncomfortable without our addiction be it drugs, tv, sex, blogs etc. While preferences are greatly desired but not necessary for our happiness to continue.  



There is also chemical and or bio chemical addiction like drugs/alcohol and there is psychological addiction.  You seem to be talking about addiction resulting from guilt of some sort that leads to unhealthy exaggeration, as opposed to the &quot;it’s just a beer” they say…they have a couple and it’s over with. There no over the top guilt trips and over-indulgence involved.&quot; Where it not an addiction at all, it&#039;s a preference.

 

You further said &quot;What I am trying to say is there is no such thing as an addiction…the addiction is actually the dramatic internal fight that does not allow itself to just be.&quot;

 

I think this is a good but also somewhat shaky point when you don&#039;t &quot;qualify&quot; that there are different degrees and kinds of addiction (chemical, psychological etc.) and the concepts of things like &quot;soft addictions&quot; i.e. spending lots of time on the computer instead of doing other things you really want to do.

 

&quot;We all go through many many cycles in our lives and it’s beautiful to embrace them all.&quot;
Yes :) 

 

When you said 

&quot;I think the cool things is when people find that we can be that person for ourselves…and we will never leave our side…that we are capable to love ourselves even if we did not recieve it as a child.&quot; I would agree, we need to learn to give the love and validation we wished we&#039;d had or gotten from others.

 

When we give it to ourselves, people we continue to give back as well and we will give it back to them.

 

&quot;The thing to know is you can love you and that you are loveable no matter what.&quot;  

 

Yes Lissa. 
That is the place we are working and playing to be and stay in.  It&#039;s sometimes a solid place that we can stay without question.  Other times however, our human vulnerability can move us out of it, and being ok and loving ourselves when that happens is still progress and a good thing in my book.  :cool</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lissa, you said &#8220;I think the whole idea of an addiction is an misnomer…its only an addiction if you label it such.&#8221;</p>
<p>To me there is a difference between addiction and preference.  We become uneasy, uncomfortable without our addiction be it drugs, tv, sex, blogs etc. While preferences are greatly desired but not necessary for our happiness to continue.  </p>
<p>There is also chemical and or bio chemical addiction like drugs/alcohol and there is psychological addiction.  You seem to be talking about addiction resulting from guilt of some sort that leads to unhealthy exaggeration, as opposed to the &#8220;it’s just a beer” they say…they have a couple and it’s over with. There no over the top guilt trips and over-indulgence involved.&#8221; Where it not an addiction at all, it&#8217;s a preference.</p>
<p>You further said &#8220;What I am trying to say is there is no such thing as an addiction…the addiction is actually the dramatic internal fight that does not allow itself to just be.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think this is a good but also somewhat shaky point when you don&#8217;t &#8220;qualify&#8221; that there are different degrees and kinds of addiction (chemical, psychological etc.) and the concepts of things like &#8220;soft addictions&#8221; i.e. spending lots of time on the computer instead of doing other things you really want to do.</p>
<p>&#8220;We all go through many many cycles in our lives and it’s beautiful to embrace them all.&#8221;<br />
Yes <img src='http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/wp-includes/images/smilies/smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>When you said </p>
<p>&#8220;I think the cool things is when people find that we can be that person for ourselves…and we will never leave our side…that we are capable to love ourselves even if we did not recieve it as a child.&#8221; I would agree, we need to learn to give the love and validation we wished we&#8217;d had or gotten from others.</p>
<p>When we give it to ourselves, people we continue to give back as well and we will give it back to them.</p>
<p>&#8220;The thing to know is you can love you and that you are loveable no matter what.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Yes Lissa.<br />
That is the place we are working and playing to be and stay in.  It&#8217;s sometimes a solid place that we can stay without question.  Other times however, our human vulnerability can move us out of it, and being ok and loving ourselves when that happens is still progress and a good thing in my book.  <img src='http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/wp-includes/images/smilies/cool.gif' alt=':cool' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Marko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My question to you is what is wrong with needing no validating outside yourself? Needing it and not needing it are both an imbalance, the way I understand what you’re saying. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.&quot;
 
Your are assuming, in this particular instance, that those outside of ourselves are not part of us or are us?
 
Because if we are all one, that which appears and seems as outside of us as other people events situations, is Us as well.  Therefore, validation outside us from others is really still really validation from us.
 
It&#039;s appears outside of ourselves, but really isn&#039;t, that is, in the big picture, there is only one of us.  

I&#039;m being technical here.  All validation then, is from within.  In the larger picture even when it appears as being outside of ourselves, expressed as others, it&#039;s really us appearing as the other reflecting back to us.
 
Technically we are both right, but the nuance is different.  It&#039;s very healthy not to need outside validation as I think you mean it.  Yet since we are more than our bodies and our own self concepts, that is, we are the world as well and even the Universe. 
Nothing is truly outside of us, yet we can at this time experience things as outside, as duality as part of the human experience and contrast.
 
We appear separate, even when we theoretically are not.  At some point we will decide and choose not to experience that separateness.  Yet before we do that, I&#039;m guessing we will delight in being able to do both at the same time and go back a forth to greater degrees based on what we desire to experience.  Does that help?/Make sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My question to you is what is wrong with needing no validating outside yourself? Needing it and not needing it are both an imbalance, the way I understand what you’re saying. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your are assuming, in this particular instance, that those outside of ourselves are not part of us or are us?</p>
<p>Because if we are all one, that which appears and seems as outside of us as other people events situations, is Us as well.  Therefore, validation outside us from others is really still really validation from us.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s appears outside of ourselves, but really isn&#8217;t, that is, in the big picture, there is only one of us.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m being technical here.  All validation then, is from within.  In the larger picture even when it appears as being outside of ourselves, expressed as others, it&#8217;s really us appearing as the other reflecting back to us.</p>
<p>Technically we are both right, but the nuance is different.  It&#8217;s very healthy not to need outside validation as I think you mean it.  Yet since we are more than our bodies and our own self concepts, that is, we are the world as well and even the Universe.<br />
Nothing is truly outside of us, yet we can at this time experience things as outside, as duality as part of the human experience and contrast.</p>
<p>We appear separate, even when we theoretically are not.  At some point we will decide and choose not to experience that separateness.  Yet before we do that, I&#8217;m guessing we will delight in being able to do both at the same time and go back a forth to greater degrees based on what we desire to experience.  Does that help?/Make sense?</p>
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