Comments on: Is the Ego Necessary for Survival? http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/is-the-ego-necessary-for-survival/ A Guide to Spiritual Awakening, Enlightenment, and Unconditional Love Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:06:25 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ismaelia http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/is-the-ego-necessary-for-survival/comment-page-1/#comment-1755 Ismaelia Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:20:32 +0000 http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/?p=68#comment-1755 I've noticed that I don't get angry or frustrated with the ego anymore. When it pops up I just laugh or roll my eyes and continue on. I also seem to be so joyous and fun-loving all the time now. I first thought that maybe it was ego that was leading me to just wanting to have fun and not being serious but what is there to be serious about, really? I just go where I'm led and where I find myself going and it is always a joyous experience and I feel so much love! I catch myself wondering if I am laughing too loudly or acting too differently but those are judgments and no one seems to notice anything different in me and somehow what ever needs to be done gets done. I just feel so much love for everyone and everything and I feel loved as well. So how can that be ego? I’ve noticed that I don’t get angry or frustrated with the ego anymore. When it pops up I just laugh or roll my eyes and continue on. I also seem to be so joyous and fun-loving all the time now. I first thought that maybe it was ego that was leading me to just wanting to have fun and not being serious but what is there to be serious about, really? I just go where I’m led and where I find myself going and it is always a joyous experience and I feel so much love! I catch myself wondering if I am laughing too loudly or acting too differently but those are judgments and no one seems to notice anything different in me and somehow what ever needs to be done gets done. I just feel so much love for everyone and everything and I feel loved as well. So how can that be ego?

]]> By: karima http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/is-the-ego-necessary-for-survival/comment-page-1/#comment-1751 karima Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:59:23 +0000 http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/?p=68#comment-1751 Thanks for ur reply I was like so many seekers serching for the ultimate I, trying to disidentify from the ego, the thoughts etc then it suddenly hit me listening to a recording of Sailor Bob Adamson saying that the simplicity of it all is: are you awake or asleep? that was it, I know beyond doubt that I am awake as the Buddha says nothing special, out of the ordinary I am and I know that I am again simple. The problem of ego or disidentifying with thought is ultimately imaginary another concept stored away neatly by the mind, there is nothing to do at all for anyone to be what they r already, you have never been lost you are here now always every experience points to u. In the end we must let go of all concepts we have accumulated along the spiritual search they do not help one little bit, If you know you are awake then that is it stop there and the rest unfold, you will suddenly realise we start as "I am not the thoughts, I am not the ego,I am nothing perceivable" and we finish realising" I am the thoughts, I am the me, I am all of it" no need to separate anymore.( sorry if some stuff do not make sense being French explaining something like that in another language is quite challenging)Bye Thanks for ur reply
I was like so many seekers serching for the ultimate I, trying to disidentify from the ego, the thoughts etc then it suddenly hit me listening to a recording of Sailor Bob Adamson saying that the simplicity of it all is: are you awake or asleep? that was it, I know beyond doubt that I am awake as the Buddha says nothing special, out of the ordinary I am and I know that I am again simple. The problem of ego or disidentifying with thought is ultimately imaginary another concept stored away neatly by the mind, there is nothing to do at all for anyone to be what they r already, you have never been lost you are here now always every experience points to u. In the end we must let go of all concepts we have accumulated along the spiritual search they do not help one little bit, If you know you are awake then that is it stop there and the rest unfold, you will suddenly realise we start as “I am not the thoughts, I am not the ego,I am nothing perceivable” and we finish realising” I am the thoughts, I am the me, I am all of it” no need to separate anymore.( sorry if some stuff do not make sense being French explaining something like that in another language is quite challenging)Bye

]]> By: Ariel Bravy http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/is-the-ego-necessary-for-survival/comment-page-1/#comment-1746 Ariel Bravy Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:21:30 +0000 http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/?p=68#comment-1746 yes yes yes yes yes :respect yes yes yes yes yes :respect

]]> By: ~ Julie http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/is-the-ego-necessary-for-survival/comment-page-1/#comment-1745 ~ Julie Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:15:02 +0000 http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/?p=68#comment-1745 I lost all fear (which includes, shame, embarassment, and lots of other cool stuff!) with my first awakening experience last April. I've sorted of tested myself to see whether the fear was really gone. Bungee jumping, recording videos of myself singing and posting them on facebook, baring my heart and soul at the risk of rejection, and most recently (yesterday), shaved my hair off (my dad is handling that one pretty well!). The bungee jumping I always wanted to do, but for the adrenaline rush. There was none. I had no fear. It was a non-event. The rest of those actions would have mortified "me" prior to all of this. The guy suddenly met someone else and it was love at first sight, so the response to my soul-baring was news that he had a girlfriend. When he told me, I sort of felt myself drain for a few seconds, then I was just silent and I felt a peace and strength of spirit supporting me. He said she was cool, I would like her, he didn't want to not be friends, there wasn't any reason he wasn't chasing me, he just didn't have that drive to (even though he told me he was having powerful dreams about me - long story). I laughed nervously. I didn't want to hear that. BUT, he posted pictures of them on facebook that same night, and as soon as I saw them, I was truly happy for them. I could see that what they had was real and he was happier than I had ever seen him. There was something there that we had not experienced together. They went to Cuba soon after and posted pictures and made comments and I found, to my amazement, that I couldn't be bitter or jealous or dislike her, even if I tried! It's a great feeling, unconditional love! I didn't have to have any negative feelings towards anyone because I didn't get what I wanted. And I was honestly happy and trusted that whatever is meant to be will be. I could see that they were meant to be together at this time. With losing the fear, my friends and family started to worry a little that I would do something "crazy". I told them that just because I don't have fear doesn't mean that I don't have common sense! I think common sense is the intuition that comes from being connected to source and I have even more of it now, which keeps me safe (e.g. safely avoided crashing my car as it swerved all over an extremely icy road - I really thought I was gonna crash and no fear arose, I just did what came naturally and got the car back under control, again, to my amazement). I don't really know whether the fear being gone means that the ego is gone. And I'm not sure how big a role the ego plays in survival once you are hooked up to the most vast supply of common sense! I dunno know. It's all very curious, but I don't feel the need to figure that part out anymore. I've experienced it, and that is more than enough. I lost all fear (which includes, shame, embarassment, and lots of other cool stuff!) with my first awakening experience last April. I’ve sorted of tested myself to see whether the fear was really gone. Bungee jumping, recording videos of myself singing and posting them on facebook, baring my heart and soul at the risk of rejection, and most recently (yesterday), shaved my hair off (my dad is handling that one pretty well!).

The bungee jumping I always wanted to do, but for the adrenaline rush. There was none. I had no fear. It was a non-event. The rest of those actions would have mortified “me” prior to all of this. The guy suddenly met someone else and it was love at first sight, so the response to my soul-baring was news that he had a girlfriend.

When he told me, I sort of felt myself drain for a few seconds, then I was just silent and I felt a peace and strength of spirit supporting me. He said she was cool, I would like her, he didn’t want to not be friends, there wasn’t any reason he wasn’t chasing me, he just didn’t have that drive to (even though he told me he was having powerful dreams about me – long story). I laughed nervously. I didn’t want to hear that.

BUT, he posted pictures of them on facebook that same night, and as soon as I saw them, I was truly happy for them. I could see that what they had was real and he was happier than I had ever seen him. There was something there that we had not experienced together.

They went to Cuba soon after and posted pictures and made comments and I found, to my amazement, that I couldn’t be bitter or jealous or dislike her, even if I tried! It’s a great feeling, unconditional love! I didn’t have to have any negative feelings towards anyone because I didn’t get what I wanted. And I was honestly happy and trusted that whatever is meant to be will be. I could see that they were meant to be together at this time.

With losing the fear, my friends and family started to worry a little that I would do something “crazy”. I told them that just because I don’t have fear doesn’t mean that I don’t have common sense! I think common sense is the intuition that comes from being connected to source and I have even more of it now, which keeps me safe (e.g. safely avoided crashing my car as it swerved all over an extremely icy road – I really thought I was gonna crash and no fear arose, I just did what came naturally and got the car back under control, again, to my amazement).

I don’t really know whether the fear being gone means that the ego is gone. And I’m not sure how big a role the ego plays in survival once you are hooked up to the most vast supply of common sense! I dunno know.

It’s all very curious, but I don’t feel the need to figure that part out anymore. I’ve experienced it, and that is more than enough.

]]> By: Ariel Bravy http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/is-the-ego-necessary-for-survival/comment-page-1/#comment-1744 Ariel Bravy Mon, 23 Feb 2009 01:20:03 +0000 http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/?p=68#comment-1744 Yeah, I agree with you totally karima. My understanding of this has grown since I originally wrote this post. There's a functional ego which has the ability to discern and create the experience of separation. It helps us survive. Y'know, there is a bus and here I am and I better get out of the way over to that side of the street before it hits me. Healthy separation. Nothing wrong with that. It's the fear-based needing to worry about everything, all those thoughts that spin out that we can let go of. That's the dysfunctional part of the ego, or negative thought. It's nothing bad or anything to demonize. Like a scared little puppy, it's just scared of everything. That part can be healed and released. "it is simply an extension of the pure intelligence that I am" You bet. It perceives itself to be separate to or a replacement for innate intelligence. ie, using our mind to rationalize rather than our intuition, but as you said, it's simply yet another expression of what you are, for ultimately everything is you, including the ego. Thank you for your awesome comment! :thumbsup Yeah, I agree with you totally karima. My understanding of this has grown since I originally wrote this post.

There’s a functional ego which has the ability to discern and create the experience of separation. It helps us survive. Y’know, there is a bus and here I am and I better get out of the way over to that side of the street before it hits me. Healthy separation. Nothing wrong with that.

It’s the fear-based needing to worry about everything, all those thoughts that spin out that we can let go of. That’s the dysfunctional part of the ego, or negative thought. It’s nothing bad or anything to demonize. Like a scared little puppy, it’s just scared of everything. That part can be healed and released.

“it is simply an extension of the pure intelligence that I am”

You bet. It perceives itself to be separate to or a replacement for innate intelligence. ie, using our mind to rationalize rather than our intuition, but as you said, it’s simply yet another expression of what you are, for ultimately everything is you, including the ego.

Thank you for your awesome comment! :thumbsup

]]> By: karima http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/is-the-ego-necessary-for-survival/comment-page-1/#comment-1743 karima Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:25:08 +0000 http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enlightenment/?p=68#comment-1743 Hello, Just would like to clarify what you are saying. You have no ego and that all these spiritual masters have no ego left, well how much of an ego does one have to be able to say such a thing, surely come on, your ego, although not the whole reality is a definite function needed, an infant would surely die without this acquired tool it is a necessary part of living as if u r a human being that is all, no need to deny it or demonise it, the ego is an intuitive intelligence which grows an learns there is intelligent egos and no so intelligent egos, even Nisargadatta said he still had an ego except that he did not identified himself as it anylonger, the ego is what keeps u from walking through traffic, it is a function and a necessary one, denying it is simply another set of concepts, so many so called people who are this awareness and nothing else seems to still hang on, even very subtly to certain concepts, please let us understand that as long as this body lives the ego will remain. The ego is not to be pushed aside just because we have been told too, it is simply an extension of the pure intelligence that I am, simple. thank you Hello,
Just would like to clarify what you are saying. You have no ego and that all these spiritual masters have no ego left, well how much of an ego does one have to be able to say such a thing, surely come on, your ego, although not the whole reality is a definite function needed, an infant would surely die without this acquired tool it is a necessary part of living as if u r a human being that is all, no need to deny it or demonise it, the ego is an intuitive intelligence which grows an learns there is intelligent egos and no so intelligent egos, even Nisargadatta said he still had an ego except that he did not identified himself as it anylonger, the ego is what keeps u from walking through traffic, it is a function and a necessary one, denying it is simply another set of concepts, so many so called people who are this awareness and nothing else seems to still hang on, even very subtly to certain concepts, please let us understand that as long as this body lives the ego will remain. The ego is not to be pushed aside just because we have been told too, it is simply an extension of the pure intelligence that I am, simple. thank you

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