Comments on: Do Enlightened People Have Egos?

By: Davidya

Davidya — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:22:13 +0000

OH – It’s worth noting that when some people awaken, they get what some call a “spritualized ego” or “premature immaculation”. Their identity grabs hold of this dawning transcendent knowledge to enhance it’s specialness. Some of these become teachers. It’s one of the traps one can fall into in that post enlightenment phase.
Teachers who seem to be awake but compare themselves with others or put themselves up tend to be a giveaway, although sometimes this is just personality (laughs). Wendys advice holds well.

By: Ariel Bravy

Ariel Bravy — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:13:20 +0000

Yeah Davidya, seems like just different definitions for the word ego. The way you define it, the idea of being separate, that does fall away for sure.

Thanks for posting this part. It’s a big help for me in the present: “Key is to clear the emotional drivers that push them up again. Drivers that are pushed by the sub-conscious identity.”

As you said, the personality does seem to continue, though it does change and often become more lighthearted, not taking things so seriously, for example.

Someone mentioned, and this might have been on your blog actually, the idea of there being a functional ego that keeps you focused in physical reality and helps you get things done such as eating or whathaveyou, versus an identity-based ego which is what dissolves when Unity itself awakens.

By: Davidya

Davidya — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:08:31 +0000

Wendy
Beautiful comment. Thank you for sharing that.

By: Davidya

Davidya — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:05:12 +0000

Hi Ariel Thanks for the mention and an interesting article. I don't describe it the same way, but I think the difference is semantics. For me the ego is the idea of being separate. I differentiate this from the personality and the deeper identity. They are certainly closely interrelated, but they shift in stages. On awakening the core of the ego -the idea of being other -does die. But there is usually a mesh of concepts and beliefs built around that that continue for a time. These can arise and mind can even try to take over again. But if you have truly 'switched', the dynamic will fall away over time. Key is to clear the emotional drivers that push them up again. Drivers that are pushed by the sub-conscious identity. Some use 'ego' far more broadly to describe any aspect of individuality which for me makes it harder to see the process. A key point to note to illustrate ego death is to forget what it was like to have an ego. Like forgetting what it was like to be 10. The personality is a separate beast. Its built of a number of factors, including the ego, and does indeed continue to death. But it also arises from a wide range of other influences, some having nothing to do with the person. The need of the time we could say. It may be racially changed by awakening or it may not. The identity is something much deeper, not usually revealed until the one heart has been cleared post awakening. It is that which creates the idea of "inside" and "outside", that prevents Oneness. That which has a name. Thus, after it falls, Unity can awaken. But that's getting ahead of the discussion ;-) Thanks again. The more voices, the larger the picture, the greater the whole. Davidyas last blog post..Fullness of Emptiness

By: Ismaelia

Ismaelia — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:40:20 +0000

The term and concept of surrender is used often here. I find myself more easily resonating to “soften, melt and dissolve”.
Does anyone sense any kind of resistance in this? Is this my ego in disguise in some way?
Thanks!! :-))

By: TJones

TJones — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:10:43 +0000

This makes a lot of sense and has cleared things up for me.

By: 2Da1

2Da1 — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:38:48 +0000

Great blog. Thank you so much for sharing. Will be around a lot.

Peace and blessings,

2Da1

By: wendy mewhort

wendy mewhort — Sun, 28 Dec 2008 07:13:30 +0000

Hello Ariel.
Happy holidays…
The realization that one still has an ego after ‘enlightenment’ need not be a painful experience.
It can be- and truly is- a blessed tool… that can help assist others toward enlightenment.
When we allow ourselves- and fully accept ourselves- to be conscious channels of the divine (enlightenment in action) our egos are used for the greater good of all, as we hear ourselves say, and watch ourselves do, that which others need to receive for their own growth and development.
A beautiful system it is :-)
Honor it. It’s a blessing.
And yes, sometimes… well most of the time… true enlightenment is disguised as total normalacy…
This is important Ariel… there is so much work to do… don’t want to draw too much attention to yourself until the time is ‘right’.
Trust… continue to surrender… all is well.
Much love,
Wendy